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British PM, Gordon Brown, Backs Obama Over 'War on Terror.'
independent.co.uk — Brown prepared the ground for a historic realignment in the "war on terror" by setting out a four-point plan for withdrawal of British troops from Iraq by the end of next year...It is clear Mr Brown is in agreement with Barack Obama on the need for military action in Afghanistan to take priority. Both appear to be working to a 16-month timetable.
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- Crackerpat, on 07/20/2008, -70/+4This isn't looking too good for us. Are we really going to elect a person into office that wont stand up or acknowledge the Pledge of Allegiance? What the ***** are you thinking?
- B08ama, on 07/20/2008, -2/+38You didn't actually just say that, did you? You obviously can be convinced of something very easily, so take a look at this so that you can be easily convinced in the opposite direction:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/patriot- pault107, on 07/20/2008, -1/+1At 0:17 Linda lets one go.
- marabout40, on 07/20/2008, -5/+25Cracker - it must be hard to breathe with your head always up your ass, you ignorant piece of crap.
- alapoet, on 07/20/2008, -3/+24Crackerpat - Come on... You're just kidding, right?
You're just pretending to be an ignorant *****, aren't you?
Because nobody can be that ***** clueless. - thirdcoastborn, on 07/20/2008, -0/+7CrackHead know it's not true but he also knows that hundreds maybe even thousands will read his little comment and about 10% of them will believe it. Let's kick CrackHeads ass everybody. come on we can do it.
- Kanten, on 07/20/2008, -0/+6For something that uses "under God" in a supposedly church-separated nation seems a bit hypocritical too I would think.
- pyronik, on 07/20/2008, -1/+1everyone knows sep of church and state is a crock of ***** a made up term that people think is actually in the constitution
its freedom of religion, not for religion, and for a country that is predominantly christians to want to say they believe in God, not neccessarily their God, but a God, to defer to something bigger and greater than themselves is not unreasonable. It is part of our culture whether the loud mouth progressives like it or not.
- pyronik, on 07/20/2008, -1/+1everyone knows sep of church and state is a crock of ***** a made up term that people think is actually in the constitution
- Paragrinn, on 07/20/2008, -1/+1Crakcerpat has to be on meth, trying to just be a cockbag, or he includes himself in the 19% of America that still support Bush. You know- the ***** idiots.
- xexx, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD6bKaVW-ls
- B08ama, on 07/20/2008, -2/+38You didn't actually just say that, did you? You obviously can be convinced of something very easily, so take a look at this so that you can be easily convinced in the opposite direction:
- greatgran1, on 07/20/2008, -15/+28Those of you,who listen to MSM and believe all the opinions,character analysis and misleading
rumors,with a smattering of breaking news,must be totally confused by now.How can so many really smart people,some of whom you had respect for,be fooled by this person? It's time you
did some in depth research.Your digging here,but the facts about Barack Obama and his extraordinary ability to lead requires ones ability to search for them.- funzo, on 07/20/2008, -5/+5blah blah blah you're all sheep blah blah
- maggiesnotebook, on 07/20/2008, -9/+1Greatgran1, I agree with you. While we know nothing of what Obama may try to do as President, because he contradicts himself often, we know a lot about what he has done in his past. He has lived his life as a Socialist and a Marxist, as did his Father who had Communist ties and deeply believed in the redistribution of wealth.
He has close, close personal ties to Islam. How do we expect him to turn his back on half of his family. How can we trust him to stand strong against Islam when it is necessary. How can we believe that he will support Israel?
His Senate Bill 2433, if it passes, will commit us to the U.N. Millennium Goal, which is designed to remove our sovereignty - although it's stated goal is to eradicate poverty - but as you said - dig deep into this man's background. Forget his Senate records. He hasn't achieved anything there.
Maggie
Maggie's Notebook - jabberwolf, on 07/21/2008, -3/+1You mean him saying that the surge would never work and we'd never make any one of our benchmarks ( caught on video). ( Yet the surge worked and we've met 15 of the 18 benchmarks)
That if we had the OBAMA way, we would not have had the surge,
There would still be a civil war in Iraq
Iran would influence most of Iraq
Oil would be closer to $8 a gallon because of it.
Our economy would be even more in the hole because of that.
Because of Iran's strangle hold on oil and Iraq many EU nations could not impose sanctions on Iran and they'd be closer to making a nuclear bomb.
Yep that's Obama's world if you wanna go there, but thank god it never came true.
But you still have a chance to ***** up the economy by voting for Obama and having him impose socialism in an economic depression. That's the future Obama's world. YES WE CAN !!
- rasde, on 07/20/2008, -17/+43rd
- maxgoedjen, on 07/20/2008, -1/+1Is this your first time?
- evilcaptain, on 07/20/2008, -11/+2Empty words :(
- pintomp3, on 07/20/2008, -12/+8i guess we'll be invading england soon.
- TheSnuffster, on 07/20/2008, -2/+7Dear America,
Bring it on
Yours Sincerly,
England
- TheSnuffster, on 07/20/2008, -2/+7Dear America,
- alaskanassassin, on 07/20/2008, -4/+2peruvians to the rescue!
- chicagospur, on 07/20/2008, -3/+16While it's true that Brown was never a fan of the war in Iraq, he didn't dare cross Blair when Blair was PM because he wanted to be PM. So, he's a real man of principle.
With Brown's personal rating as bad as Bush's, this sounds more like trying to grab on Obama's coat tails.
If, God forbid, McCain wins, Brown is completely hosed...- MikeFallopian, on 07/20/2008, -0/+7Why would the US election determine Brown's fate? He's hosed either way.
- Tr33fiddy, on 07/20/2008, -0/+9Brown'll be fine because he'll only be PM for a few more months.
- warriorscot, on 07/20/2008, -3/+5Brown isn't as disliked as bush, people just aren't very enthusiastic about him. He is a brilliant man in most respects but not when it comes to charisma or leadership, he was a great chancellor because the job fit him because it needed smarts but no real charisma but PM is a different job.
He would support obama because they are closer politically, while still much further to the right than labour the democrats are still the lesser of two evils as UK PMs see it.
Brown will do what Brown thinks is right, its what he does, it makes him probably the best choice to lead a country but probably not the one people will choose because it makes him a not very good politician. - SarahC, on 07/20/2008, -0/+3He's hosed already. The UK hate him.
- undeadbydawn, on 07/20/2008, -0/+1No, the UK just sees him as an awful PM. There is a big difference.
I'm a lifelong Brown Supporter and utterly baffled at how terrible he is as PM. In every other sense he's quite brilliant.
- undeadbydawn, on 07/20/2008, -0/+1No, the UK just sees him as an awful PM. There is a big difference.
- alphonseragusa, on 07/20/2008, -16/+6http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-07/20/conte ...
Obama "promised additional troops to Afghanistan to bolster war on terror after winning the coming elections. " End the war? Sorry - more like redistribute. Much like he'd do with our dwindling wealth.
For the love of god/allah/FSM - please write in RON PAUL in 2008.- JorgeGT, on 07/20/2008, -1/+2Xinhua, uh? A totally unbiased source...
- PopASquatt, on 07/20/2008, -2/+9Afghanistan is actually a fairly successful mission right now.
The Taliban that removed all culture, arts, media, and the rights from women have now been exiled. The Afghan national army has been rebuilt thanks to funding from the US, Germany, Canada and many other NATO nations providing equipment and support. Women are no longer beat in the streets by "religious police" and they can now go to school.
I believe that 63% of Afghans still want the support of the ISAF assistant force as of a 2007 poll conducted by British journalists, I believe anyway.
Thanks to the NATO led operation, these people might one day have everything we take for granted.- PopASquatt, on 07/20/2008, -2/+7And before you comment, I know the Taliban haven't been completely exiled, it's just their command of the nation has been removed in it's entirety.
- treelovinhippie, on 07/20/2008, -1/+18The real "terrorists" are in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, and the dirty politicians know this.
- Eldavidos, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Yes, but they have guns and are able to defend themselves. Duh!
- Br3ach, on 07/20/2008, -3/+6I feel safer knowing he will take the lead on wars against intangible things
- Regbooker, on 07/20/2008, -4/+15I can't believe there is people out there that actually think Obama is going to withdraw the troops from Iraq. Too many political and corporations interests there. I mean, look at what happened with FISA and the Patrioct Act, he did exactly what his party and the lobby groups told him to do.
- LansingSterling, on 07/20/2008, -4/+5 obama did vote for FISA and the USA Patriot Act.
- Regbooker, on 07/20/2008, -0/+8That's what I've said.
- LansingSterling, on 07/20/2008, -4/+5 obama did vote for FISA and the USA Patriot Act.
- withears, on 07/20/2008, -1/+3Not that I particularly care what any other country thinks about us, it's good to see that Mr. Brown is willing to take sides.
- Erythroxylum, on 07/20/2008, -10/+7Jesus. Talk about a rock around your neck. You know (or you'd hope at least) that when the most unpopular British Prime Minister - a wretched, uncharismatic, inverted-Midas-touch, socialist stroke victim - since polling began agrees with a plan of yours, then it's high time to radically 'change' that plan and 'hope' that the aforementioned dangerous liability doesn't notice.
Oh, and withdrawing (see: surrendering) when you've all but won a conflict? Genius.- revisrev, on 07/20/2008, -2/+5Me: I think it's good to breathe.
Some dumbass: I agree with Rev, it's good to breathe.
Should I change my position? - Enigmocracy, on 07/20/2008, -1/+5"Oh, and withdrawing (see: surrendering) when you've all but won a conflict? Genius."
Just like leaving Vietnam was such a terrible idea, right?- TheSenator624, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2You bring up an interesting point.
If Obama withdraws and Iraq falls into chaos, will history see him as "winning" or "leaving" the conflict? I'll be betting on the latter. - Enigmocracy, on 07/20/2008, -0/+3My point was, how many people think we should still be in Vietnam? Because unless we had a president that "quit", we were there forever. Like Vietnam, Iraq is literally unwinnable.
- TheSenator624, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2You bring up an interesting point.
- revisrev, on 07/20/2008, -2/+5Me: I think it's good to breathe.
- darkzeroman, on 07/20/2008, -2/+4I feel bad for the current generation of Iraqis who will have to suffer once the US leaves.
If the US is having trouble stabilizing Iraq, do you think a new government without enough trained forces will be able to control the country? Slowly and slowly Iraq will fall apart and EVERYONE who was a US supporter will be tortured/hunted by anti-US parties(I'm just going to use this general term). And this will only give them(anti-US parties) more reason to ultimately focus on Afghanistan, which in the back of my mind, I think will fail as well.
I'm a supporter of calling back the troops to some degree, but I shudder to think what kind of stories we will be hearing about the people of Iraq once the troops are taken out. I guess there isn't any proper way out of this situation.- DogBotherer, on 07/20/2008, -1/+3All the more reason to think it through much more carefully before invading anywhere else...
- jreinstedler, on 07/20/2008, -3/+3More like war of terror...
- fndavid, on 07/20/2008, -1/+6So almost everyone in the world wants Obama to be our president.... I'm down for restoring our image.
- TheSenator624, on 07/20/2008, -4/+2Wow. Since everyone in the world--including Iran, Syria, and North Korea--want Obama, then he MUST be the best choice.
*eyeroll* - fndavid, on 07/20/2008, -0/+4Well Mr. President just removed North Korea from his fantasy "axis of evil".
I always forget, when you say "the world", some nationalist will equate that specific rogue nations.
*eyeroll*
- TheSenator624, on 07/20/2008, -4/+2Wow. Since everyone in the world--including Iran, Syria, and North Korea--want Obama, then he MUST be the best choice.
- cplusplus, on 07/20/2008, -3/+7I support your War of Terror!
- friend18, on 07/20/2008, -7/+2Who cares what booger eater gordon brown thinks?
- fndavid, on 07/20/2008, -0/+4Wow.. last time I heard "booger eater" was 3rd grade. Way to bring it back.
- cambob76, on 07/20/2008, -2/+1The Iraqis and now Gordon Brown? Don't they know they're hurting W's feelings? Don't they have any compassion?
- Kanten, on 07/20/2008, -1/+5And another nail for the Republicans, I'm worried that they're going to run out of space on the coffin.
- sadilak, on 07/20/2008, -1/+1Obama as a President will be a huge mistake. This has nothing to do with racism, but obama is too much of a theoretician. McCain might be slightly insane and might push the button when provoked, but I would think McCain is better than Obama. Obama is all about special interest groups.
- fuzzynyanko, on 07/20/2008, -1/+4In other words, you don't mind if he goes out and nukes someone?
- maxgoedjen, on 07/20/2008, -0/+3How does "McCain might be slightly insane and might push the button when provoked, but I would think McCain is better than Obama." take priority over "Obama is all about special interest groups." in your book? Of the lesser of two evils, I think I'll take the one that isn't insane/pushing any buttons.
- sadilak, on 07/21/2008, -1/+0Sometimes pushing the button is essential for keeping a balance. Our time is ending, it might as well end with a bang.
- sadilak, on 07/20/2008, -1/+1Obama as a President will be a huge mistake. This has nothing to do with racism, but obama is too much of a theoretician. McCain might be slightly insane and might push the button when provoked, but I would think McCain is better than Obama. Obama is all about special interest groups.
- 3leggedHorse, on 07/20/2008, -1/+3war on terror waste of time.
- 2reflective, on 07/20/2008, -1/+2Unless your a military contractor. Then it's party time.
- BenjaminWill, on 07/20/2008, -2/+4Brown is a first class idiot. He, like Blair before him, just wants to stick his tongue up the American backside and do whatever it wants. Sorry to be so crude, but it's true. No offence to our American cousins, we know you're frustrated with your government too, but we're just sick of our politicians following instead of leading. And I do find it amusing that in 10 years of Labour rule in which they have effectively ruined our nation, only now that their re-election stands on particularly flimsy ground do they try and do something to please the people of this land.
For example, we have had enormously escalating knife crime in recent years but they have waited until now to do anything about it, which of course means they just slap gritty ads on prime time TV waning us of the dangers of knife crime to make it seem as if they are actually doing something when in reality they really aren't. Gordon Brown is merely scenting danger here and I think he's intelligent enough to see Obama will win the election in a few months and he's getting ready to do some sucking up when that time presents itself. I just hope Obama has the guts to tell him to stop snivelling around like a depraved animal and get on with leading his country (while he still can).- Lazydriver, on 07/21/2008, -0/+1And somehow guns are bad? Guns are there to keep the shankers the ***** away from you!
That, and, of course, people will kill people if they want to, and ideally, if you don't want people to kill other people, make lives better.
- Lazydriver, on 07/21/2008, -0/+1And somehow guns are bad? Guns are there to keep the shankers the ***** away from you!
- LansingSterling, on 07/20/2008, -0/+1@ regbooker
I know, i was only agreeing with you after doing a little research at wikipedia on obama - wowsah156, on 07/20/2008, -1/+4just a nore for the american diggers, gordon brown (known as Browntrouser to the brits) will be lucky if he is still Prime minister by november. so for all the Obamamanaics out there dont see this as a good thing. Brown is yesterday's man in Britain.
- pigfister, on 07/20/2008, -0/+1i though the ground troops were having to leave at the end of this year because of the iraq government refusing to allow the murderous americans to occupy their country any longer due to the U.N. mandate expiring!
- VaporBro, on 07/20/2008, -0/+7Gordon brown texture like sun
Lays me down with my mind he runs
Throughout the night
No need to fight
Never a frown with Gordon brown
Every time just like the last
On his ship tied to the mast
To distant lands
Takes both my hands
Never a frown with Gordon brown
Gordon brown finer temptress
Through the ages he's heading
West
From far away
Stays for a day
Never a frown with golden brown
Never a frown
With Gordon brown
Never a frown
With Gordon brown - CarzorStelatis, on 07/20/2008, -0/+10Those of you in the US need to see this in the light of the current UK political context. Gordon Brown's government is a catastrophe, his party has the lowest poll ratings since the most respected poll series started in 1947. The Iraq War was never popular here, and is a political landmine now. This is just a failed leader trying to prevent the inevitable train wreck at the next election.
- pkulak, on 07/20/2008, -0/+5Great. He's even less popular then Bush right now.
- norman619, on 07/20/2008, -4/+3I hope the guy is intelligent enough to understand Obama's anti Iraq war stance is only political. Once in office he will leave our troops where they are. Obama has already flip flopped on his stance now that Hilary is gone. Obama is a politician. He will say thing he feels the people he needs to vote for him want to hear. After the election it will be business as usual. No matter who winds up being the next president it will be like that old song. Say hi to the new boss. Same as the old boss. People here on Digg have this naive misconception that most of the world seems to have about the president of the US. The US president can't do anything of consequence w/o the OK of the legislature and/or the judicial branch. He is president of the US not King or Lord of the US. The executive branch is not the leader of the US. We have 3 branches. Legislative, Judicial, and Executive. Together all 3 run the government. I wish more US Diggers would have paid more attention in their civics and US history classes.
- TinternAbbot, on 07/20/2008, -1/+3And the British people just LOVE Gordon Brown.
- parabolee, on 07/20/2008, -2/+5What is that supposed to mean? I'm British and I love Gorden Brown!
Unfortunately in Britain the conservatives have been out of power for so long, a lot of people have forgot why we got rid of them for so long, the conservatives have spent 12 years throwing dirt at the Labour party and people are starting to believe the BS.
Tony Blair and Gordon Brown (his second in command) have messed a few things up, but no sane person can deny how much better the country is now than after Thatchers reign of terror.
So just because you may have heard a little criticism of Brown, don't presume he isn't popular. We did elect his party (of which he was second in command) into power for 16 years!
- parabolee, on 07/20/2008, -2/+5What is that supposed to mean? I'm British and I love Gorden Brown!
- rtphokie, on 07/20/2008, -1/+1While an interesting endorsement, I get 1 vote, he gets none.
- amightywind, on 07/20/2008, -4/+3Funny how there is so little talk of successfully completing the mission by either Brown or B. Hussein Obama. Don't they feel any responsibility to Iraq's security?
- Kelmon, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2You know it's bad when you receive the backing of Gordon "I Still Have A Job?" Brown. Obama could do without this kind of support. Brown commands about as much respect from the British people at present as Long John Silver's parrot.
- Eldavidos, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1At lest the British people hold a soft spot in their hearts for Long John Silver's parrot.
- evilcaptain, on 07/21/2008, -0/+1Terrorism isn't a priority, but is important to take care of.
Millions suffering due to food shortages, disease sweeping the world, forced manual labour of useless consumer goods.
Those words are as empty as they come :( - jimuk, on 09/09/2008, -0/+0That's the kiss of death for Obama, there's a reason people call Gordon Brown "Jonah". Obama supporters have my sympathies, maybe next time.
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